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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Try selling a few domain names early on.&#8221; Words of advice for Noob domainers. Not sure exactly where I read it but earlier this year I realized I had to get out of my comfort zone and try selling some domain names. Sure I had my domains at Sedo. I had received a lowball offer [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Try selling a few domain names early on.&#8221; Words of advice for Noob domainers. Not sure exactly where I read it but earlier this year I realized I had to get out of my comfort zone and try selling some domain names.  Sure I had my domains at Sedo. I had received a lowball offer for one of them even. But I hadn&#8217;t done any &#8216;active&#8217; selling. I&#8217;d read a post by Randomo at NamePros about domain flipping. He&#8217;d flipped 1,700 domains in 2007. He didn&#8217;t go into the exact details of how much he&#8217;d made, but a few people in the thread put the pieces together and figured he&#8217;d netted over $50k at least<small>–<big>he&#8217;d sold them for between 3 and 5 times reg fee. He had a business model. He was making a living domaining. I thought I&#8217;d try flipping some domains<small>–<big>maybe I could help cover my renewals at least. I got back on The Drop looking for domains to flip. I figured I&#8217;d try selling them on Ebay first. Why Ebay? Possible end-users. Also I didn&#8217;t really feel I knew enough to try it in the Forums.</big></small></big></small></p>
<p><small><big><small><big>Here&#8217;s a list of names I tried to sell on Ebay and the results.</big></small></big></small></p>
<p><small><big><small><big>DIDN&#8221;T SELL</big></small></big></small></p>
<p><small><big><small><big>1yj.net One Yankee Juliet NLL 3 Character Domain Name $9.99<br />
5jd.net Five Juliet Delta NLL 3 Character Domain Name $9.99<br />
These aren&#8217;t something I&#8217;d normally be attracted to, but when I found a handful of these in The Drop one day I decided to try to flip them. A couple did, these didn&#8217;t. Typically, I did more research later on and found that these NLL.nets are considered worth Reg fee only.<br />
From <a href="http://3character.com/priceguide.html">3character.com</a><br />
LLN com $220  net $10<br />
LNL com $220  net $reg fee<br />
NLL com $220  net $reg fee<br />
NNL com $220  net $reg fee<br />
NLN com $220  net $10</big></small></big></small></p>
<p><small><big><small><big>ENGILBERT.COM First Name Domain Name Baby Boy? $24.99<br />
I see these name domains available in The Drop and I think End User! I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s an Engilbert out there somewhere who would love to have his first name domain name. I didn&#8217;t find him on Ebay though.<br />
LUBARS.COM Domain Name $9.99<br />
NEVESS.COM Domain Name $9.99<br />
A couple of surname domain names. &#8220;nevess&#8221; scores 175,000 in a Google search and is also Hungarian for &#8216;renowned&#8217;. &#8220;lubars&#8221; scores 434,000 in a Google search. I&#8217;d have to assume there weren&#8217;t any Lubars or Nevess family members in the market for domains on Ebay that week.</big></small></big></small></p>
<p><small><big><small><big>[Updated 030809]<br />
<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">RFUK.NET Semi-Premium LLLL.Net $9.99</span> sold $.99<br />
<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> BMBY.NET Semi-Premium LLLL.Net $9.99</span></big></small></big></small><small><big><small><big> sold $.99</big></small></big></small><br />
<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><small><big><small><big> COKX.NET Pronouncable Semi-Premium LLLL.Net $9.99</big></small></big></small></span><small><big><small><big> sold $.99</big></small></big></small><br />
<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><small><big><small><big> GUCS.NET Pronouncable Semi-Premium LLLL.Net $9.99</big></small></big></small></span><small><big><small><big> sold $.99</big></small></big></small><br />
<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><small><big><small><big> GEWL.NET Pronouncable Semi-Premium LLLL.Net $9.99</big></small></big></small></span><small><big><small><big> sold $1.25</big></small></big></small><br />
<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><small><big><small><big> JLOC.NET Pronouncable Semi-Premium LLLL.Net $9.99</big></small></big></small></span><small><big><small><big> sold $.99</big></small></big></small><br />
<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><small><big><small><big> JROE.NET Common Initial/Last Name Combo LLLL.Net $9.99</big></small></big></small></span><small><big><small><big> sold $.99</big></small></big></small><br />
<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><small><big><small><big> EXLA.NET Pronouncable LLLL.Net $9.99</big></small></big></small></span><small><big><small><big> sold $1.25</big></small></big></small><br />
<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><small><big><small><big> TKUN.NET Semi-Premium LLLL.Net $9.99</big></small></big></small></span><small><big><small><big> sold $.99</big></small></big></small><br />
<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><small><big><small><big> OMBJ.NET Semi-Premium LLLL.Net $9.99</big></small></big></small></span><small><big><small><big> sold $.99</big></small></big></small><br />
<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><small><big><small><big> RIUV.NET Pronouncable LLLL.Net $9.99</big></small></big></small></span><small><big><small><big> sold $.99</big></small></big></small><br />
<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><small><big><small><big> BFWM.NET Semi-Premium LLLL.Net $9.99</big></small></big></small></span><small><big><small><big> sold $.99</big></small></big></small><br />
<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><small><big><small><big> UTTP.NET Semi-Premium LLLL.Net  $9.99</big></small></big></small></span><small><big><small><big> sold $.99</big></small></big></small><br />
<span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><small><big><small><big> MOAU.NET Semi-Premium LLLL.Net $9.99</big></small></big></small></span><small><big><small><big><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> </span> sold $1.29<br />
</big></small></big></small><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><small><big><small><big>ROWG.NET Semi-Premium LLLL.Net $9.99</big></small></big></small></span><small><big><small><big> sold $1.25</big></small></big></small><br />
<small><big><small><big> Oh boy. This was clearly a mistake. Inspired by what I&#8217;d been reading on <a href="http://DropDude.com">DropDude.com</a>, I picked these up in The Drop thinking they&#8217;d filp for at least a few dollars profit. Kind of silly to discover, after the fact, they weren&#8217;t the sort of .nets domainers are buying, i.e. Premium.<br />
From <a href="http://4letternoob.wordpress.com/">4letternoob</a> (soon to be <a href="http://www.llll.com/">LLLL.com</a>)<br />
In general, the best performing letters are: A, S, E, M, D, I, T, O. Other strong letters include F, G, H.<br />
The letters J,K,Q,U,V,W,X,Y,Z are referred as non-premium letters. The presence of one of these letters considerably devalues a 4 letter .com under most circumstances. Of these, Q, X, Z are the weakest.<br />
premium letters A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, L, M, N, O, P, R, S, T<br />
medium: J, K, U, V, W<br />
most hated: QXYZ</big></small></big></small></p>
<p><small><big><small><big>ShaggyDogBlog.com Domain Name &#8211; Great For Joke Site $24.99<br />
This was one of mine that was up for renewal. Probably I&#8217;ve had it long enough that I&#8217;ve just become attached to it but I could say that for a lot of domains and so I decided to let it go. But not for less than $24.95. Like I said, I like this one anyway.</big></small></big></small></p>
<p><small><big><small><big>AmateurPom.com Click-Alike Domain Name $24.99<br />
AutolnsuranceOnline.com Click-Alike Domain Name $24.99<br />
AffordableHealthlnsurance.com Click-Alike Domain Name $24.99<br />
Part of my Click-Alike collection. I fell for these types of names about a year ago after reading a <a href="http://blog.domaintools.com/2007/10/click-a-like-domains-and-google-adwords/">blog post</a> on DomainTools I imagined a network of Click-Alike sites full of high dollar Affiliate products. When the renewals came up recently I decided I&#8217;d see if anyone else thought they were valuable. Hmm.</big></small></big></small></p>
<p><small><big><small><big>DID SELL</big></small></big></small></p>
<p><small><big><small><big>StormTrooperEffect.com $.99<br />
StormTrooperSyndrome.com $.99<br />
Before I was even a Noob I was getting excited about names like these. Rather than let them expire I put them on Ebay. The other thing about a sale, even a $.99 sale, is that you end up with positive feedback. You need 20 sales to open an Ebay store, which was something I was considering.</big></small></big></small></p>
<p><small><big><small><big>BUNX.NET Pronouncable LLLL.Net $9.99<br />
GOYZ.NET Pronouncable LLLL.Net $9.99<br />
PULV.NET Pronouncable Semi-Premium LLLL.Net $9.99<br />
A couple of the &#8216;Semi-Premiums&#8217; sold!<br />
4cq.net Four Charlie Quebec NLL 3 Character Domain Name $9.99<br />
4ql.net Four Quebec Lima NLL 3 Character Domain Name $9.99</big></small></big></small></p>
<p><small><big><small><big>OddioBook.com Brandable Domain Name &#8211; Odd Audio Books! $0.99<br />
RikiTikiWiki..com Domain Name Att. Mongoose Lovers $0.99<br />
A couple more of my pre-Noob acquisitions. Sold them rather than let them expire.</big></small></big></small></p>
<p><small><big><small><big>Dalores.com First Name Domain Name Baby Girl? $24.99<br />
This was a name I found in The Drop. Buyer got a great deal IMO.</big></small></big></small></p>
<p><small><big><small><big>Looking at only the domains I purchased off The Drop for the purpose of flipping&#8230;<br />
Acquired for Ebay flipping: 25 @ $7.69 = $192.25<br />
Ebay selling costs: $27.34<br />
Total cost: $219.59<br />
Total sales: $80.93<br />
Cost of experiment: $138.66</big></small></big></small></p>
<p><small><big><small><big>I suppose that could change. I still have the domains for sale.<br />
Another thing I should mention was that in the process of looking for flipable domains I found a couple I think were keepers that are now parked and for sale at Sedo. I could be wrong, but they seem to me worth at least a couple of hundred each, and I wouldn&#8217;t have found them if I hadn&#8217;t been in Drop-Flip acquisition mode. (But what do you think?)<br />
<a href="http://www.sedo.com/search/details.php4?domain=pussied.com">Pussied.com</a><br />
and<br />
<a href="http://www.sedo.com/search/details.php4?domain=hobbying.com">Hobbying.com</a></big></small></big></small></p>
<p><small><big><small><big>What&#8217;s my take-away?<br />
I think people shopping for domains on Ebay are looking for steals.<br />
I think that at these prices, the Ebay charges really do impact your profits.<br />
I think that unless you just love to do it, (or get really lucky) the number of hours spent scanning the drop lists, acquiring names, listing names for sale, and following up on the sale (getting the domain transferred) makes the whole process a <strong>big time-waster</strong>! Even if you got good at it, it&#8217;s not going to scale. It&#8217;s got &#8216;Don&#8217;t quit your day job&#8217; written all over it.<br />
Sour grapes?</big></small></big></small></p>
<p>P.S. Great post from <a href="http://yeswebdesign.com/" target="_blank">Joshua Hunt-Smith</a> on the How-To nitty gritty details of  putting a domain up for sale on Ebay at <a title="Selling Domain Names on Ebay" href="http://llll.com/domains/selling-short-domains-ebay/" target="_blank">LLLL.com</a>.</p>
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